IE's and mozilla's box-model

[hzr]

Ok, one simple question: Does IE6 and mozilla have the same box-model?
I've read that if you include "<?xml..." IE will have the sloppy box-model, but I don't have that and I still got problems to make it look the same in both browsers.

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[Alan]

correct me if i'm wrong butif you do doctype strict then it behaves poperly otherwise it is sloppy mode.

or it may be the otherway round...

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[Brian Nickel]

If you have any W3C doctype, it will act struct in both browsers, otherwise both use the IE5 model.
In IE, if you use <?xml, it will send it into IE5 mode, so you need to use a meta or http for encoding.

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[mad hatter]

I can't wait till we can use the IE box model.

- D.S.
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[webarnes]

:oops: ie box model?
I'm confused; maybe I misunderstood the box model.

I was under the influence the following example was the problem with the difference between ie and moz / netscape box model?

width: 50px;
border: 2px;
padding-left: 10px;
50 width
+2 border left
+2 border right
+10 padding left

Moz / Netscape: 64px wide.
ie: 50px wide.

It is very likely I am wrong and need to read some more about it.
However,
If this is example is correct I would take moz / netscape any day.
What the math adds up to is what will get displayed.

:mrgreen:No unexplained phenomena....
The mystery of the disappearing numbers.

William

[ttrenka]

Mozilla uses the strict box model (true_width = width + margin + border) while IE6 in non-standards mode still uses the IE box model (true_width = width). To make IE6 comply with the CSS model (the one Mozilla uses) you have to put it in strict mode using the HTML 4.01 STRICT doctype. So you are right, William ;)

[Brian Nickel]

http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/boxsizing/boxsizing.html has an explanation/remidy for cross-browser confusion.

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